Committee Meeting
Sunday 19th Sept 2010
BOC Brighton 2010
MINUTES
1) Welcome from Chairman;
Present
Yvonne Jones Chairman (YJ)
Arunika Gunasekera Secretary/Membership Secretary (AG)
Alison Newlyn Chairman/Website (AN)
Jane Eden OPC (JE)
Brenda Ng Clinical Standards (BN)
Apologies
Heather Nevard Hon Treasurer/Conference and Meetings (HN)
Yvonne Warltier ACCD (YW)
Jane James Scholarship and Grants/Ethics (JJ)
2) Prior notice of any other business
Nil
3) Minutes of Committee Meeting held on 12th May
Accepted
4) Matters Arising (not otherwise on the agenda)
5.4 ACCD
YJ has looked into BDA electoral issue and there is difficulty I getting an ‘orthodontic seat’ as need to be elected. AN has tried and will keep trying to get elected via the rep body. Discussed possibility of co-opting a member.
Action; YJ to approach Peter Bateman to see if co-opting may be a possibility.
5) Reports:
5.1Chairman (YJ)
BOS Board of Trustees & Rep Body
Report attached
DwSI & Therapists
Nigel Harradine (NH) asked for more background on non supervision of therapists and DwSI before writing to relevant training bodies. (see SAC )
Website
Being upgraded. Need volunteers to use and report on new website.
Revalidation
May be different for specialists than generalists. BOS will need to be involved.
Training
SAC reported that 3yr/5yr pathway has now been accepted so new trainees from 2011 will start new curriculum.
Also highlighted possibility of 15% cut of training posts. Orthodontics may be affected as such a large speciality.
Training will become more in Primary care than hospital based (like German system).
Concerns were raised over the Warwick course being able to sit M’Orth in Edinburgh.
OPC
Meeting with Dept of Health. J Jones instructed to ensure all of committee are given an opportunity to attend these meetings rather than just specialists. PCTs will be going in 2years , contracts up for renewal, they will be unsure of how to proceed so likely thatnew contracts will last only 18- 24 months. May be that money will follow patient system will be adopted. (ie free market).
PCT Divestment
YJ bought up issue with possibility of members going into other non NHS bodies, falling number problems and jobs disappearing. 2011/2013 will see many members coming up to retirement age.
CQC
Need to note that if you are working as a private only practitioner and not in a mixed practice then you need to register with the CQC as an individual and not part of practice by 22nd Sept. Does not apply to NHS practice.
5.2 Secretary & Membership report.
34 paid up members unsure of where two posts lost/retired. Need to understand geographical spread of the jobs in community service.
Action: YJ/AG to get current membership list from BOS
5.3A Treasurers report
Attached
5.4 ACCD report
YW reported difficulty in getting to the meeting and in getting minutes. Raised issue that Dean of Faculty was unsure how NOW was going to help anyone but practice. Reported that some dentists are currently working on orthodontic contracts without supervision. D Wong had suggested that BDA committee needs orthodontic representatives.
Action; YJ to write to see if orthodontic representation could be on BDA committee.
5.5 SAC Report
Report attached. AN reported that BOS have taken over running of organising the visits for DwSI course and will now do the visits before trainee is in place. Onus will be on trainee and trainer to get visit organised as have been unwilling to participate previously (i.e. cohort 3). Academic lead will be required soon as IH will finish soon. AN will be on examining board of SAC but is uncertain what direction SAC will take in the future.
5.6 Scholarships and Grants and Ethics Committees
Attached
5.7 Clinical Standards Committee
Attached
5.8 Orthodontic Practice committee
JE reported that last OPC meeting was cancelled however Richard Jones sent an updateDraft guidelines to PCTs being written.PCTs will be disappearing in 2 years. Contracts up for renewal will be for 18 – 24 months. Funding for dental likely to go central again. YJ has white paper details agreed to send out
Action; YJ to send out details of white paper to committee. JE to try to attend meetings with Dept of Health and raise profile of salaried orthodontic service.
6. Lunchtime meeting
Meeting room booked at conference for Tuesday lunchtime. AG confirmed that no catering booked. YJ sent out invitations to bring lunch to the discussion group.
7. Study Day 2011
Group discussed various options for study day. Suggestions were as follows:
Liz Jones – View from the deanery
Or Sue Greenwood for the political section
Nigel Harradine – clinical tips on finishing
Management of special care dentistry?
Tim & Helen Newton – Motivation of orthodontic patients
Matt Chia & wife – bisphosphonates and orthodontics
Date of study day 17th March
8. PCT Divestment
BDA representative of salaried services came to JE/BN area to discuss social enterprise. Made very valid presentation against SE . Discussed issue with TUPE arrangements. Unclear which options are available?
YJ reported that her service had been going into foundation trust with two others. This was changed at the last minute and her service will now be overseen by the local hospital (acute). Only special care being taken in, PDS contracts have been dropped.
AN Integrated care and range of services no longer seem to be important. Difficult to get commissioners to be interested. Some bottom slicing of services happening. Hiving off to private care companies e.g. care UK
10. AOB. Nil
11. Dates for future meetings
9th Dec 2010 at 11.30am (BOS HQ)
16th March at 11.30 (BOS HQ)
17th March (AGM)
